The Random Discussion / Argument Thread

[SAW]

From where I stand both sides are dodgy as fuck!

Aye and still we allow them to divide us.

 

[Old fox]

Any boss will get rid of excess workers ,trump is now boss.

Any boss will get rid of workers that work against the bosses wishes,,trump is boss now.

Doing what a boss should be doing

Ummm.....I'm not sure if you understand the role of civil servants.
Their role is apolitical.

Sounds as though you would risk being a traitor your own countrymen with an Aus trade war, because of your blind cult ideology.

It's no different to the China tariffs a few years ago.

Don't cut your nose off to spite your face. Diaper Donnie will also hurt ordinary Australians. The goods subjected to China/USA trade war yesterday, will soon cost more. And guess what, as a consumer it's you and I who will be paying more.

Diaper doesn't have a strategy. He just wants to destroy everything, including his own countrymen.

Diaper Donnie is already THE worst USA President in history. Sad that we are living through this.


I'm not suggesting what we had was perfect, or even great. But this fool is already much worse. If there was another usa election tomorrow, Diaper Donnie would lose in a massive landslide. There's at least 70 million social security recipients who would gladly vote him out Along with the remaining blue states.

His first moves in office have been to directly attack the most vulnerable and disadvantaged members of society. Many Americans aren't waking up to hope and national pride today. Instead they are cowering in fear for where their next meal will come from. This isn't what they voted for. They were duped.

 

[Old fox]

On another note, pointing out the totalitarianism from democrats doesn't mean I immediately support trump.

One issue can exist without it being about the other. I just don't like rabid speech control and will call it out when I see it for 8 years straight, regardless of Trump's existence..

Mate. There IS a middle ground
Extreme left are fucken nutters.
But Diaper Donnie has taken extreme right measures to his own countrymen and providing himself to be just as unhinged as the pink haired weirdo.

Most Americans are very scared today.
They didn't vote to freeze their social security system. And they want lower prices, not higher prices through trade wars

The role of government is to look after the majority of citizens. Not just an elite few

 

[Sedge]

@Old fox ,,you just keep coming up with more bullshit ,,
He hasn’t stopped social security ,,where do you get all this nonsense info from ?
And you have the Gaul to tell us we are being conned ,,
Your starting to sound like a lost cause old Fox ..

They call it an idiot box for good reason ,,sounds like your addicted to it like all the other lefties and wokists,,

About time you read the fine writing under my posts ,,You’ve been bamboozled.

 

[itchybro]

And THATS the entire point I'm making itchi, about trade wars.......".I wonder who stands to lose MORE!!!"

It's a race to the bottom. Both sides lose and NOBODY wins, not even the bigger trading partner.

Good leaders used to proud of creating growth and prosperity. Diaper Donnie is happy to crash and burn any economy, including his own. It's madness, he IS unhinged.

He's not very bright mate.

I hope you blokes change your mind about him, once he slaps tariffs on Australia. You were all outraged, when China applied tariffs on us, so why would you be happy to cop American tariffs? Especially as they will hurt our people.
Surely as Australians we should be supporting fellow Australians, ahead of Donnie. Otherwise the term CULT that is frequently used for maga supporters is actually true.
Don't cut your nose off to spite your face fellers. Don't be sheep...
Price of *affected *Chinese and US goods will now start to rise. Australians will be buying some of their goods at inflated prices, thanks to Donnie. It creates a negative flow on affect for world trade.

But sleep easy at night boys. Knowing that Donnie and Elons rich mates won't feel any of the pain. Just plebs like us and those who can least afford it.

Key questions for Aussie maga supporters,? Why the fuck would you be happy if Donnie slaps tariffs on Aus goods? How will that benefit YOU and other Australians? If you were unhappy with the Chinese tariffs, why would the US tariffs be anymore palatable?

Don't be TRAITORS to your own countrymen because of a blind cult ideology.

ahh nice opinion piece
be good if you kept it as your opinion & not projected your opinions as it being mine or others opinions too cos that ain't anywhere near my opinion , in fact i gotta agree with @Sedge your talkin a bit of BS mate & it seems TDS is very strong with you

 

[Old fox]

ahh nice opinion piece
be good if you kept it as your opinion & not projected your opinions as it being mine or others opinions too cos that ain't anywhere near my opinion , in fact i gotta agree with @Sedge your talkin a bit of BS mate & it seems TDS is very strong with you

Well you and Sedge would say that.
You've been drinking the MAGA cool aid.

You're already on record saying you think Elon Musk is pretty smart. That position seems very clear.

 

[Old fox]

@Old fox ,,you just keep coming up with more bullshit ,,
He hasn’t stopped social security ,,where do you get all this nonsense info from ?
And you have the Gaul to tell us we are being conned ,,
Your starting to sound like a lost cause old Fox ..

They call it an idiot box for good reason ,,sounds like your addicted to it like all the other lefties and wokists,,

About time you read the fine writing under my posts ,,You’ve been bamboozled.

For clarity, and accuracy......I don't vote left. I can't stand the Greens, and Albo seems to be too much of a lefty puppet.

I support the person ( leader) and not necessarily the party. I am officially party agnostic

I also don't have any serious objections to the Libs in Aus. I voted in multiple elections in support of Little Johnny Howard . He delivered some very generous A.W.A's my way.

Unlike some punters on TSE I don't follow blind ideology.

My objection is *personally* to Diaper Donnie, and NOT his party. It's his destructive, unthinking and uncaring demeanour that sucks

I would have welcomed Mike Pence as President, if this orange buffoon hadn't bought out the party. If you look closely, there's a lot of people within his own party who dislike Donnie. And they know him better than you and I.

 

[SAW]

You’ll switch your opinion on him ol fox.
Just like Musk, Vance and Rogan to name a few.
Hallelujah you’ll see the light.

(Sarcasm alert)

 

[Old fox]

For clarity, and accuracy......I don't vote left. I can't stand the Greens, and Albo seems to be too much of a lefty puppet.

I support the person ( leader) and not necessarily the party. I am officially party agnostic

I also don't have any serious objections to the Libs in Aus. I voted in multiple elections in support of Little Johnny Howard . He delivered some very generous A.W.A's my way.

Unlike some punters on TSE I don't follow blind ideology.

My objection is *personally* to Diaper Donnie, and NOT his party. It's his destructive, unthinking and uncaring demeanour that sucks

I would have welcomed Mike Pence as President, if this orange buffoon hadn't bought out the party. If you look closely, there's a lot of people within his own party who dislike Donnie. And they know him better than you and I.

Johnny Howard displayed some decent right wing principles. Work a lot harder and you can try and negotiate a much better wage through an AWA. Aspirational leadership to do better

Donnies approach is totally opposite.
Crush the bastards

 

[Sedge]

I don’t care about personal opinions ,you either like his personality or you don’t ,that’s none of my business,,,

It’s the bullshit that gets spread that I don’t like ,,and it don’t matter whether the bullshit is about left or right,,if I know it’s crap I’ll say it how I see it,,
Just happens that all the lies are coming from the left ,,and as Vin said it’s been going on for eight years now ,,actually longer but the last eight years has been propaganda shoved in our faces non stop,, ,you reckon you don’t follow blind ideology but you blindly spew out left propaganda ,,come on fox, your not fooling me.

 

[Sun Ra]

Johnny Howard displayed some decent right wing principles. Work a lot harder and you can try and negotiate a much better wage through an AWA. Aspirational leadership to do better

Donnies approach is totally opposite.
Crush the bastards

Children overboard.

 

[Old fox]

I don’t care about personal opinions ,you either like his personality or you don’t ,that’s none of my business,,,

the bullshit that gets spread that I don’t like ,,and it don’t matter whether the bullshit is about left or right,,if I know it’s crap I’ll say it how I see it,,
Just happens that all the lies are coming from the left ,,and as Vin said it’s been going on for eight years now ,,actually longer but the last eight years has been propaganda shoved in our faces non stop,, ,you reckon you don’t follow blind ideology but you blindly spew out left propaganda ,,come on fox, your not fooling me.

" Just happens that ALL the lies are coming from the left." Oh, really!!

Difficult not to interpret views like that as anything other than blind ideology.

 

[Old fox]

Children overboard.

Yep, a disaster.
Enlightened self interest here. I was making good money I needed the money at that stage as sole breadwinner for the family. He simply managed our economy fairly well, and provided financial incentives( for lower to middle classes) to get ahead. Rather than punish that demographic

He didn't fuck up every social and migration issue. Lol.....Following Port Arthur he tightened our gun control laws. I'm not anti guns, as I do some part time hunting. Just that those tighter controls ensured we don't head down a similar trigger happy path like usa. I draw a line at bringing guns into schools.

 

[Sun Ra]

WARNING : The following podcast MAY OFFEND you. [and probably should]

What it is is Sam Newman platforming two Australian neo-Nazis in Blair Cottrell and Thomas Stewell on his podcast "You Cannot Be Serious". I am posting it here if you are interested in listening to these guys actually trying to explain and justify their "White Power" position and vision for a "White Australia". It's a tough listen.

I am genuinely torn as to if these fuckwits should be platformed to any degree as I do believe in freedom of police and political expression .........but ......... woah.

Episode 293 - Part 5 - Main Stream Push Back | You Cannot Be Serious

smartassam.podbean.com

For some balance ......

I can’t believe we have to say this, but Australia should ban Nazis fairly urgently - The Shot

Big "no duh" moment for this nation

theshot.net.au

MODS - feel free to delete this post.

 

[Old fox]

I don’t care about personal opinions ,you either like his personality or you don’t ,that’s none of my business,,,

It’s the bullshit that gets spread that I don’t like ,,and it don’t matter whether the bullshit is about left or right,,if I know it’s crap I’ll say it how I see it,,
Just happens that all the lies are coming from the left ,,and as Vin said it’s been going on for eight years now ,,actually longer but the last eight years has been propaganda shoved in our faces non stop,, ,you reckon you don’t follow blind ideology but you blindly spew out left propaganda ,,come on fox, your not fooling me.

I only need 2 words to debunk your entire paragraph. STOLEN ELECTION !!!

"There are none as blind as those that will not see" = blind ideology.

There was NO stolen election Sedge. It was all bullshit coming directly from Diaper Donnie. Most of his own party members pleaded and grovelled and begged with him to stop that bullshit narrative. Most reasoned observers would now agree that it was just a big LIE spewing out from D D.

 

[Old fox]

I only need 2 words to debunk your entire paragraph. STOLEN ELECTION !!!

"There are none as blind as those that will not see" = blind ideology.

There was NO stolen election Sedge. It was all bullshit coming directly from Diaper Donnie. Most of his own party members pleaded and grovelled and begged with him to stop that bullshit narrative. Most reasoned observers would now agree that it was just a big LIE spewing out from D D.

Donnie can and does bullshit with the best of them Sedge. Some would even argue that he can bullshit/lie " better than most."

But to categorically state that the left is ALL lies( not just some lies, but all lies) while disregarding the stolen election lies, simply lacks all reason.

It's not my opinion. It's an established legal fact.....there was no stolen election. Full stop. Only the brethren are foolish enough to fall for that big fat lie, and maybe the small weird cohort that are now wearing Diapers for Donnie. But that's not a CULT wearing nappies for a President...that's the new normal apparently.

 

[Sedge]

I only need 2 words to debunk your entire paragraph. STOLEN ELECTION !!!

"There are none as blind as those that will not see" = blind ideology.

There was NO stolen election Sedge. It was all bullshit coming directly from Diaper Donnie. Most of his own party members pleaded and grovelled and begged with him to stop that bullshit narrative. Most reasoned observers would now agree that it was just a big LIE spewing out from D D.

You haven’t debunked anything,,,,And you just look like your clutching at straws to justify your stance,,

Fact is that you or I cannot prove or disprove the election,,And all you keep doing is regurgitating what the idiot box told you,
And projecting the fact that you are sucked in by the ideology of the left,,,
And what is a reasoned observer? Someone that observed the propaganda and thinks they got it all sussed out ?
Your just getting lamer and lamer as the day progresses,,

 

[Sun Ra]

Trump's Middle East "solution":

Trump suggests turning 'unlivable' Gaza into 'Riviera of the Middle East'

The comments came amid an in-person meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanuahu, during which the pair discussed the future of the Middle East.

www.abc.net.au

 

[med180]

Trump's Middle East "solution":

Trump suggests turning 'unlivable' Gaza into 'Riviera of the Middle East'

The comments came amid an in-person meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanuahu, during which the pair discussed the future of the Middle East.

www.abc.net.au

Truly ignorant. Shit is going to hit the fan.
How do you fix 77 years of forced displacemen and annexation.... more forced displacement and annexation! Meanwhile trying to push normalisation of Israeli Arab relations!

 

[Old fox]

You haven’t debunked anything,,,,And you just look like your clutching at straws to justify your stance,,

Fact is that you or I cannot prove or disprove the election,,And all you keep doing is regurgitating what the idiot box told you,
And projecting the fact that you are sucked in by the ideology of the left,,,
And what is a reasoned observer? Someone that observed the propaganda and thinks they got it all sussed out ?
Your just getting lamer and lamer as the day progresses,,

The courts in usa have dismissed ALL claims. It's been proven there was ZERO evidence of a stolen election.

It's absurd to think it's just an opinion. It's not my role or your role to prove or disprove the election. It's the courts role. And that's already been legally established.

Anyone that still truly believes the election was stolen, has lost touch with reality.