Poppies anyone ?

[Hudo]

No mate, I'm not sure how - haven't researched it. I know the main alkaloid is 'similar' to the good stuff.

Yes they do seed but mine hasn't flowered yet - been in the ground about 2 years. Got one in a pot too.

Where did you find them? Can you buy em or you have to find them in the bush

 

[BigRobbo]

Something not that many people know is you can buy coca tea online and if you have some lab smarts its possible to extract from it but its minimal reward for effort, something like 3-5 grms per kg maybe a bit less

 

[Love to grow]

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Something not that many people know is you can buy coca tea online and if you have some lab smarts its possible to extract from it but its minimal reward for effort, something like 3-5 grms per kg maybe a bit less

Yea we used to get that tea a pinch of bicarb 8 tea bags and you was away

 

[junglelover]

A bit off subject but regarding Sth america ,,I’ve always thought you could have a heap of coke plants growing in Australia and cops wouldn’t even recognise them ,
wouldn’t advise anyone doing though, as they’d come down on you like a ton of bricks if cops did find out.

We had one but it carked it after a cyclone, there are definitely others growing in our area. Chewing the leaves is great for a little pick me up.

 

[GreenMan]

Where did you find them? Can you buy em or you have to find them in the bush

I got mine from herbalistics nursery. He sells plants and seeds, lots of good ethno species. Though they are closed over winter.

If you can't find em you can have my spare potted plant. My mother plant is doing well now and I need space!

 

[GreenMan]

We had one but it carked it after a cyclone, there are definitely others growing in our area. Chewing the leaves is great for a little pick me up.

That's no good. Not easy to find. I was lucky to get some fruits recently, the seed needs to be planted fresh within a few days of picking.

Sounds good similar to Kratom, I only really want to chew the leaves - not to make powder. Happy to share some plants around if/when they are hardened. Everyone needs a medicine garden

 

[junglelover]

That's no good. Not easy to find. I was lucky to get some fruits recently, the seed needs to be planted fresh within a few days of picking.

Sounds good similar to Kratom, I only really want to chew the leaves - not to make powder. Happy to share some plants around if/when they are hardened. Everyone needs a medicine garden

In the Andes they make a hot chocolate type thing with coca leaves. It really helps with altitude sickness. Also saw workers in the mines with little bags of leaves (some were kids 12 or 13). I guess it helped them work in pretty shitty conditions.

 

[Pixie]

If anyone has seen the way it's processed you wouldn't go near it plus you are only funding a pack of war crims

 

[GreenMan]

In the Andes they make a hot chocolate type thing with coca leaves. It really helps with altitude sickness. Also saw workers in the mines with little bags of leaves (some were kids 12 or 13). I guess it helped them work in pretty shitty conditions.

Nice, will look into that hot choccy drink. Yeah so many tribes/people use different leaves the same way as a stimulant: khat, kratom, coca, pituri, kanna etc. I hope to try them all

 

[triasbhai]

Nice, will look into that hot choccy drink. Yeah so many tribes/people use different leaves the same way as a stimulant: khat,kratom coca, pituri, kanna etc. I hope to try them all

Agree with you, exploring different natural stimulants can be fascinating. Each one offers unique experiences. Just remember to research and use them responsibly for your safety and well-being!

 

[Mellow oldfark]

California poppy, medicine of the red Indians.
I'll harvest some soon and dry it out.might give a tea a go.
A member here put me on to it.

 

[benn0]

Is now the time to plant/scatter poppy seeds or have i missed the window of opportunity? Soz if this question has been asked before

 

[med180]

Is now the time to plant/scatter poppy seeds or have i missed the window of opportunity? Soz if this question has been asked before

Depending where you are anytime in the last month, and for the next few weeks will be fine.

 

[snapper]

Where can you source the correct type of poppy seed ?

 

[med180]

Where can you source the correct type of poppy seed ?

I've had my red ones collected in tassie running since the 90's, they're probably getting a bit old as I haven't run them for a couple of years now.

 

[Goonie Goat]

Where can you source the correct type of poppy seed ?

Don't grow Tasmanian poppies. Those poppies can kill people due to the higher thebaine content compared to normal opium poppies.

 

[med180]

Don't grow Tasmanian poppies. Those poppies can kill people due to the higher thebaine content compared to normal opium poppies.

Post late 90's they created new hybrids for codeine production? They had the higher thebaine levels that put everyone in hospital at the time. Some of us still hold old strains to this day

 

[Goonie Goat]

Post late 90's they created new hybrids for codeine production? They had the higher thebaine levels that put everyone in hospital at the time. Some of us still hold old strains to this day

Yeah the Oxycodone ones.. Good to know you have the good ones.

Copy pasted article which is interesting

Goonie Goat​

Baked​

Johnson & Johnson’s supply chain began in Tasmania, an island 150 miles south of mainland Australia, where scientists in the mid-1990s altered the genetics of thousands of plants to engineer a “super poppy” that was particularly rich in opiates.

Tasmanian farmers grew the novel plants, enticed by flashy incentive prizes — a Mercedes, a Jaguar, a BMW — that a Johnson & Johnson subsidiary awarded for growing the best crop.

The poppies were then exported to the United States where another Johnson & Johnson subsidiary refined them into oxycodone and hydrocodone, and the narcotics were shipped as white crystalline powders to the nation’s pillmakers.

Though poppy plants have been cultivated in Tasmania since the 1960s, it wasn’t until the emergence of Johnson & Johnson’s innovative poppy that it became a boom crop on the island, one that would provide the world with the raw material to make a wave of painkilling drugs.

Oxycodone and hydrocodone had been synthesized by scientists as far back as 1920, but manufacturing them in commercial quantities had proven costly.

Then, in the mid-90s, an invention by Tasmanian Alkaloids, the Johnson & Johnson subsidiary, helped reduce the costs: Scientists created a new poppy.

By treating thousands of seeds with chemicals to randomly change their genetic information, the scientists made a poppy that had two special properties. First, the new poppy had ample amounts of an opiate known as thebaine — a substance from which oxycodone and hydrocodone could be readily manufactured. Second, unlike traditional opium poppies, this poppy had no morphine, meaning that the purification process was simpler.

“It was a ‘super poppy’ from the point of view that it produces a heck of a lot more thebaine,” said Peter Facchini, a biochemistry professor at the University of Calgary whose lab specializes in studying the poppies. “The cost of thebaine — and the cost of all pharmaceutical ingredients that come from it — dropped. These prescription medicines became much more accessible, and then you had a series of cascading effects, including addiction.”

The man credited with the discovery, Anthony J. Fist, an agricultural scientist, was given Johnson & Johnson’s highest award for scientific research and innovation, the Johnson Medal, in 2000

 

[med180]

Yeah the Oxycodone ones.. Good to know you have the good ones.

Copy pasted article which is interesting

Goonie Goat​

Baked​

Johnson & Johnson’s supply chain began in Tasmania, an island 150 miles south of mainland Australia, where scientists in the mid-1990s altered the genetics of thousands of plants to engineer a “super poppy” that was particularly rich in opiates.

Tasmanian farmers grew the novel plants, enticed by flashy incentive prizes — a Mercedes, a Jaguar, a BMW — that a Johnson & Johnson subsidiary awarded for growing the best crop.

The poppies were then exported to the United States where another Johnson & Johnson subsidiary refined them into oxycodone and hydrocodone, and the narcotics were shipped as white crystalline powders to the nation’s pillmakers.

Though poppy plants have been cultivated in Tasmania since the 1960s, it wasn’t until the emergence of Johnson & Johnson’s innovative poppy that it became a boom crop on the island, one that would provide the world with the raw material to make a wave of painkilling drugs.

Oxycodone and hydrocodone had been synthesized by scientists as far back as 1920, but manufacturing them in commercial quantities had proven costly.

Then, in the mid-90s, an invention by Tasmanian Alkaloids, the Johnson & Johnson subsidiary, helped reduce the costs: Scientists created a new poppy.

By treating thousands of seeds with chemicals to randomly change their genetic information, the scientists made a poppy that had two special properties. First, the new poppy had ample amounts of an opiate known as thebaine — a substance from which oxycodone and hydrocodone could be readily manufactured. Second, unlike traditional opium poppies, this poppy had no morphine, meaning that the purification process was simpler.

“It was a ‘super poppy’ from the point of view that it produces a heck of a lot more thebaine,” said Peter Facchini, a biochemistry professor at the University of Calgary whose lab specializes in studying the poppies. “The cost of thebaine — and the cost of all pharmaceutical ingredients that come from it — dropped. These prescription medicines became much more accessible, and then you had a series of cascading effects, including addiction.”

The man credited with the discovery, Anthony J. Fist, an agricultural scientist, was given Johnson & Johnson’s highest award for scientific research and innovation, the Johnson Medal, in 2000

We have run these seed between a small group of friends since about 95' they're red as opposed to white and will grow in the right situation into huge bushes with shitloads of heads. The thebaine ones turned up here in the very late 90's and a lot of people who were pinching them from commercial crops ended up hospitalised, including several friends of mine at the time.

 

[afghan bob]

I always thought oxycodone was made in a lab, no poppys or opium derived ?