Growing on a tight budget

[Goonie Goat]

i did study it over 10 years ago haha. once upon a time i was working in the commercial hort industry.

https://bbabio.com.au/products/max-phosphorus is the product just got given a tester from a hydro store. it's just Bacillus megaterium
, in the past I have used b amyloliquefaciens
I have only grown in coco for most of my life and still do. I am personally not a fan of living soil

That looks expensive. Yeah coco is the best I'm just a stingy prick who didn't know what to do with all the rootballs I had from previous grows lol.. I'm pretty basic when it comes to the numbers of things, so let me know if my P ppm is too high before other members here burn the shit out of their plants

 

[frankreynolds]

That looks expensive. Yeah coco is the best I'm just a stingy prick who didn't know what to do with all the rootballs I had from previous grows lol.. I'm pretty basic when it comes to the numbers of things, so let me know if my P ppm is too high before other members here burn the shit out of their plants

I just have experience working with the hydrobuddy program. With it you start with a target ppm of each elemenant, add which fertillizers you want to use then it will tell you how much to add. Not sure if you can work backwards with it.

 

[frankreynolds]

I can tell you it says 0.47g/ L will give 100ppm of ammonical nitrogen

 

[frankreynolds]

personally i have been trying to get close to these numbers basically using them as a guide.

 

[Goonie Goat]

personally i have been trying to get close to these numbers basically using them as a guide.

If I'm reading that correctly then it seems like I'm redlining on ammonia?.

I'm not seeing any terrible burns or having any lockout issues so far, only damage is from plants growing into lights and getting fried that way. Google reckons 60ppm ammonia is safe, so I guess I just need to cut my 40g dose down to 20-25g

I'll begin tapering down the MAP anyway, they're close to the ripening stage. I wasnt too far off thankfully with prior amounts of 30g or so. Time to change the recipe up again

 

[frankreynolds]

If I'm reading that correctly then it seems like I'm redlining on ammonia?.

I'm not seeing any terrible burns or having any lockout issues so far, only damage is from plants growing into lights and getting fried that way. Google reckons 60ppm ammonia is safe, so I guess I just need to cut my 40g dose down to 20-25g

I'll begin tapering down the MAP anyway, they're close to the ripening stage. I wasnt too far off thankfully with prior amounts of 30g or so. Time to change the recipe up again

I'd be careful depending on how far through flower you are it may not make the biggest diff. But honestly I'd stick with MKP.

I don't add much MKP in my mixes really and don't seem to have any P issues. Maybe the extra calcium chloride might be antagonizing P a bit.

 

[Goonie Goat]

I'd be careful depending on how far through flower you are it may not make the biggest diff. But honestly I'd stick with MKP.

I don't add much MKP in my mixes really and don't seem to have any P issues. Maybe the extra calcium chloride might be antagonizing P a bit.

Cheers mate did a bit of editing and fixed up the recipe.

 

[Stevil]

Slightly off topic but does anyone have a cheaper alternative to green planet's rezin? I can't bring myself to pay $60 for 1l.

 

[Goonie Goat]

Slightly off topic but does anyone have a cheaper alternative to green planet's rezin? I can't bring myself to pay $60 for 1l.

Do you think it works?? Just looked up the ingredients

Core Ingredients

Fermented Organic Acids: Ascorbic, citric, gluconic, and lactic acids that stimulate natural metabolic processes.
Molybdenum (Mo): A trace element that helps plants convert nitrates into usable amino acids and aids phosphorus uptake.
Vitamin B1: Supports root health and helps lower environmental stress.


I've heard the sulphur in Epsom salts and sulphate of potash is a good resin builder

 

[Stevil]

Do you think it works?? Just looked up the ingredients

Core Ingredients

Fermented Organic Acids: Ascorbic, citric, gluconic, and lactic acids that stimulate natural metabolic processes.
Molybdenum (Mo): A trace element that helps plants convert nitrates into usable amino acids and aids phosphorus uptake.
Vitamin B1: Supports root health and helps lower environmental stress.


I've heard the sulphur in Epsom salts and sulphate of potash is a good resin builder

I don't think it works. I have seen that it makes the plant feel it's under attack and produces tricomes as a defense. Not convinced but marketing puts doubt in your head at the time it matters the most.

 

[Goonie Goat]

I don't think it works. I have seen that it makes the plant feel it's under attack and produces tricomes as a defense. Not convinced but marketing puts doubt in your head at the time it matters the most.

Yeah that sounds pretty far fetched I reckon too, although I think their massive bloom is a good product to use with the dual fuel but it's not too good on the wallet for larger scale grows.

Chitin / Chitinase apparently does exactly what you said too, tricks the plant into thinking it needs to protect itself, I'm pretty sure it's in insect frass / worm castings along with crustacean meal. Supplemental UV lighting is another one..

The brix fix I use is pretty much a substitute for the green planet massive bloom, that's the only additive I use besides aloe vera concentrate, along with dry nutes.

 

[Stevil]

Awesome. I bought the massive bloom but the price on rezin was a no from me. I'll have time to find a replacement. Thanks for the response.

 

[Stevil]

Aloe Vera concentrate ? We have huge aloe plants in our garden could/should I use that? We use it as cloning gel.

 

[Goonie Goat]

Aloe Vera concentrate ? We have huge aloe plants in our garden could/should I use that? We use it as cloning gel.

Don't see why not I just put a good splash of this stuff in my res every couple of refills, supposed to be pretty good for them apparently

Aloe-Tech™

This whole-leaf Aloe vera concentrate is a powerful botanical activator, fungi booster and plant growth promotant. ACO organic certified.

nutri-tech.com.au

 

[benn0]

I just looked at buying 5l containers of Green Planet Dual Fuel and its sitting at 100 dollars, honestly thought it would be cheaper, just brought another 1L for now it lasts long enough anyway. Next time I'll get some 5L drums

 

[itchybro]

Aloe Vera concentrate ? We have huge aloe plants in our garden could/should I use that? We use it as cloning gel.

you can def do that get a blender add a little water & blend away , i use it at a rate of 15ml per liter in soil grows , for convenience i buy freeze dried whole leaf aloe vera powder but probably better to use fresh off the plant

as to chitin you can also get it from malted barley powder , chitin triggers a plant response known as SAR systemic acquired resistance