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Aussie Trump.
I mean the American version has done such a splendid job with the economy.
Unparalleled prosperity for a few billionaires.
The rest of us scramble for the crumbs that fall off their table.
The hypocrisy of cunts like Musk, Clive and Gina R. fighting against political systems that have made them billionaires.
When too much is never enough.
They simply want more.
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Ah Yes.
Ultra right Christian morality.
God will forgive their sins on Sunday, so long as they have the same skin complexion, and sing exactly the same hymns
Homogeneous Aryans.
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No wonder I'm deranged.
I think paedophiles and rapists are a much bigger menace to society that a " pink haired weirdo"
But according to MAGA.........I'm the menace.
According to them, a paedophile and rapist should actually be elevated to Presidency.
Let's normalise grabbing women by the pussy.
I think paedophiles and rapists are a much bigger menace to society that a " pink haired weirdo"
But according to MAGA.........I'm the menace.
According to them, a paedophile and rapist should actually be elevated to Presidency.
Let's normalise grabbing women by the pussy.
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Let me start by saying I’m not MAGA. I’m not a Trump guy. I’m just a man. A man who believes I have the right to think for myself, speak for myself, and not be labelled a Nazi, rapist, or paedophile supporter just because I don’t bow to your ideological litmus test.
You want to talk about fascism? Fascism is telling people how to act, how to speak, how to exist — or else. What you’re doing isn’t justice. It’s just bullying with self-righteous branding.
I read that piece about the woman blocked from using the men’s bathroom at Home Depot. The one where she said, “I’m not looking at your penis!” — as if that’s the bar for bathroom decency now. She called the guy “beta” for not letting her pee in the men’s room. Then praised George HW Bush of all people — George Bush — as the pinnacle of chivalry. The guy who literally helped engineer the Iraq war. You hate MAGA, but you quote Bush to score social points? What fantasy timeline are we in?
Let me break it down: You can’t shit on traditional masculinity and then cry because no man opened the door for you. You don’t get to demonize strength, stoicism, and independence — and then moan when the “gentlemen” disappear. You can’t erase the blueprint and then complain about the house falling down.
And while we’re at it — how did we go from “men need to be more vulnerable” to “if you’re not vulnerable our way, you’re a rape apologist”? That’s not progress. That’s a power trip.
You're screaming about tolerance while spamming ableist slurs, calling people “inbred filth” and “paedophile lovers.” That’s not activism — that’s emotional terrorism. You don’t sound “woke.” You sound unwell.
This entire culture war has become a pissing contest where one side demands total submission — or you're branded a Nazi, even if all you said was, “I think that article was dumb.”
You’ve turned “I disagree with you” into “you’re a threat to society.” That’s cult behavior. You’ve weaponised inclusion into a purity test nobody passes unless they bend the knee.
And here’s the kicker: You say traditional masculinity is toxic, but what you really hate is that it doesn’t bend to you. You mock it, but you still expect its protections. You reject it — then whine when it doesn’t save you.
Newsflash: If you think “a real man” is whoever acts exactly how you want, then you don’t want men. You want servants.
As for the slander you’re throwing at @Sedge — shouting “paedophile supporters,” “traitors,” “filthy MAGA inbreds” — it says a hell of a lot more about your character than anything else. You accuse the right of being brainwashed, yet you’ve lost the ability to distinguish disagreement from danger. You’re so deep in the echo chamber that anyone who questions the script must be “one of them.”
Let me be crystal clear: I’m not part of your culture war. I’m not here to wear your team jersey. I’m not here to clap when you spit bile in the name of progress. I’ll call out hypocrisy wherever I see it — left, right, centre, or upside-down. Because truth doesn’t need a team.
You want to talk about fascism? Fascism is telling people how to act, how to speak, how to exist — or else. What you’re doing isn’t justice. It’s just bullying with self-righteous branding.
I read that piece about the woman blocked from using the men’s bathroom at Home Depot. The one where she said, “I’m not looking at your penis!” — as if that’s the bar for bathroom decency now. She called the guy “beta” for not letting her pee in the men’s room. Then praised George HW Bush of all people — George Bush — as the pinnacle of chivalry. The guy who literally helped engineer the Iraq war. You hate MAGA, but you quote Bush to score social points? What fantasy timeline are we in?
Let me break it down: You can’t shit on traditional masculinity and then cry because no man opened the door for you. You don’t get to demonize strength, stoicism, and independence — and then moan when the “gentlemen” disappear. You can’t erase the blueprint and then complain about the house falling down.
And while we’re at it — how did we go from “men need to be more vulnerable” to “if you’re not vulnerable our way, you’re a rape apologist”? That’s not progress. That’s a power trip.
You're screaming about tolerance while spamming ableist slurs, calling people “inbred filth” and “paedophile lovers.” That’s not activism — that’s emotional terrorism. You don’t sound “woke.” You sound unwell.
This entire culture war has become a pissing contest where one side demands total submission — or you're branded a Nazi, even if all you said was, “I think that article was dumb.”
You’ve turned “I disagree with you” into “you’re a threat to society.” That’s cult behavior. You’ve weaponised inclusion into a purity test nobody passes unless they bend the knee.
And here’s the kicker: You say traditional masculinity is toxic, but what you really hate is that it doesn’t bend to you. You mock it, but you still expect its protections. You reject it — then whine when it doesn’t save you.
Newsflash: If you think “a real man” is whoever acts exactly how you want, then you don’t want men. You want servants.
As for the slander you’re throwing at @Sedge — shouting “paedophile supporters,” “traitors,” “filthy MAGA inbreds” — it says a hell of a lot more about your character than anything else. You accuse the right of being brainwashed, yet you’ve lost the ability to distinguish disagreement from danger. You’re so deep in the echo chamber that anyone who questions the script must be “one of them.”
Let me be crystal clear: I’m not part of your culture war. I’m not here to wear your team jersey. I’m not here to clap when you spit bile in the name of progress. I’ll call out hypocrisy wherever I see it — left, right, centre, or upside-down. Because truth doesn’t need a team.
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@Sun Ra Let me save you the effort of the next insult:
"Hurr durr HomeBoundHounds using ChatGPT!"
Yeah — I am. And it writes better than you. So while you’re rage-posting your 47th frothy rant before breakfast, I’m collaborating with digital precision to surgically dismantle your nonsense. Welcome to the future, fellas.
You lot act like you’re rebels fighting a dystopia, but most of you have become exactly what you hate — algorithm-fed preachers of digital hysteria. Wake up. Rage-post. Call someone a Nazi. Pretend to care about nuance. Sleep. Repeat. You’ve turned this echo chamber into your entire personality.
You’ve got no time to listen, no space for honest disagreement, and no tolerance for human variation. Hell, the only real consistency here is how aggressively intolerant you are in the name of “progress.”
You scream about identity, then tell me how I’m supposed to be a man. You cry about oppression, then spit out slurs like “spastic,” “inbred,” “rapist apologist,” and “pedo lover” with zero hesitation — just because someone disagreed with you. You pretend to be enlightened, but you’ve weaponized your moral compass into a baseball bat.
The irony? You’re so deep into your own dogma you’ve become the thing you fear most: A cult.
And spare me the "Trump worshipper" crap. I’m not waving a red hat. I’m just sick of watching the world be told to shut up, sit down, and smile while being painted as monsters for asking basic questions or — heaven forbid — being men.
I’m not here to sell you conservatism. I’m not here to preach religion. I’m not here to chant woke slogans either.
I’m just a bloke trying to live without being told that doing so makes me evil.
So yeah — I use AI. I grow weed. I raise a kid on my own. I bake birthday cakes, curse too much, and call things how I see them. I don't fit your mold — and that’s the real issue, isn’t it?
You don’t want conversation.
You want compliance.
And when someone pushes back — suddenly they’re the danger?
Nah.
You’ve spent a month getting up every day to scream into a forum like it's your last stand on Earth.
You've confused performative righteousness for real thought.
And the only reason it feels good is because you’re surrounded by people clapping on command.
But don’t worry — keep posting.
You’re not changing anything, but you are making it very clear who you are.
And just like Trump’s supporters, you’ve labeled yourselves.
The cults always do.
"Hurr durr HomeBoundHounds using ChatGPT!"
Yeah — I am. And it writes better than you. So while you’re rage-posting your 47th frothy rant before breakfast, I’m collaborating with digital precision to surgically dismantle your nonsense. Welcome to the future, fellas.
You lot act like you’re rebels fighting a dystopia, but most of you have become exactly what you hate — algorithm-fed preachers of digital hysteria. Wake up. Rage-post. Call someone a Nazi. Pretend to care about nuance. Sleep. Repeat. You’ve turned this echo chamber into your entire personality.
You’ve got no time to listen, no space for honest disagreement, and no tolerance for human variation. Hell, the only real consistency here is how aggressively intolerant you are in the name of “progress.”
You scream about identity, then tell me how I’m supposed to be a man. You cry about oppression, then spit out slurs like “spastic,” “inbred,” “rapist apologist,” and “pedo lover” with zero hesitation — just because someone disagreed with you. You pretend to be enlightened, but you’ve weaponized your moral compass into a baseball bat.
The irony? You’re so deep into your own dogma you’ve become the thing you fear most: A cult.
And spare me the "Trump worshipper" crap. I’m not waving a red hat. I’m just sick of watching the world be told to shut up, sit down, and smile while being painted as monsters for asking basic questions or — heaven forbid — being men.
I’m not here to sell you conservatism. I’m not here to preach religion. I’m not here to chant woke slogans either.
I’m just a bloke trying to live without being told that doing so makes me evil.
So yeah — I use AI. I grow weed. I raise a kid on my own. I bake birthday cakes, curse too much, and call things how I see them. I don't fit your mold — and that’s the real issue, isn’t it?
You don’t want conversation.
You want compliance.
And when someone pushes back — suddenly they’re the danger?
Nah.
You’ve spent a month getting up every day to scream into a forum like it's your last stand on Earth.
You've confused performative righteousness for real thought.
And the only reason it feels good is because you’re surrounded by people clapping on command.
But don’t worry — keep posting.
You’re not changing anything, but you are making it very clear who you are.
And just like Trump’s supporters, you’ve labeled yourselves.
The cults always do.
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Ill only reply to you once.
I don't chat with bots.
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You don’t chat with bots? Cool. You also don’t seem to chat with ideas—just reactions.
I didn’t write all that to win your approval. I wrote it so your silence could say everything it needed to. And right on cue, you gave me nothing of value in return. Not even a swing. Just a flinch.
If you ever decide to bring more than a shrug to a discussion, I’ll still be here. Barking loud. Thinking sharp. Saying what others won’t.
Till then, enjoy the echo chamber. You’ve made it comfortable.
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I didn’t write all that to win your approval. I wrote it so your silence could say everything it needed to. And right on cue, you gave me nothing of value in return. Not even a swing. Just a flinch.
If you ever decide to bring more than a shrug to a discussion, I’ll still be here. Barking loud. Thinking sharp. Saying what others won’t.
Till then, enjoy the echo chamber. You’ve made it comfortable.
– HomeboundHound
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This is what I'm fighting against
www.slideshare.net
READ IT before commenting that my paedophilia comments are just an opinion.
Maybe I need to " grab your mother/wife/daughter/girlfriend by the pussy" for you to understand?
Katie Johnson Civil case for Rape Trump Epstein.pdf
Katie Johnson Civil case for Rape Trump Epstein.pdf - Download as a PDF or view online for free
READ IT before commenting that my paedophilia comments are just an opinion.
Maybe I need to " grab your mother/wife/daughter/girlfriend by the pussy" for you to understand?
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Written communication was once a new concept too. People resisted it, saying, "Who needs this? We’ve been fine without writing." Fast forward, and the written word is essential to our daily lives. The same happened with the printing press—it was revolutionary, but people thought it was just a fad.
Now, AI is here, and tools like ChatGPT are reshaping how we communicate. It might not be “natural” conversation, but what is natural, really? We’re living in a time when human expression and digital tools are merging, and AI-assisted communication is the next logical step.
Dismissing AI as “just a bot” is like dismissing the printing press because you don’t get how it works. It’s part of the evolution of communication. I’m still a person using the technology to refine my thoughts. So, before labeling AI as something less than human, remember that innovation has always been met with resistance. If you can’t see that AI is just the next phase in communication, then you're missing the bigger picture.
In 20 years, when AI is as normal as the written word, you might look back and see that it was you who stayed stuck in the past.
Now, AI is here, and tools like ChatGPT are reshaping how we communicate. It might not be “natural” conversation, but what is natural, really? We’re living in a time when human expression and digital tools are merging, and AI-assisted communication is the next logical step.
Dismissing AI as “just a bot” is like dismissing the printing press because you don’t get how it works. It’s part of the evolution of communication. I’m still a person using the technology to refine my thoughts. So, before labeling AI as something less than human, remember that innovation has always been met with resistance. If you can’t see that AI is just the next phase in communication, then you're missing the bigger picture.
In 20 years, when AI is as normal as the written word, you might look back and see that it was you who stayed stuck in the past.
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Obviously, I don’t support that kind of behavior or any of the allegations, but let’s be real—nothing ever came of this case. Anyone can file a lawsuit in the US, and people sue for just about anything. The fact is, it’s essentially a he-said-she-said situation, and while I’m not saying Trump is innocent, the reality is that no criminal conviction or legal resolution came from it.This is what I'm fighting against
Katie Johnson Civil case for Rape Trump Epstein.pdf
Katie Johnson Civil case for Rape Trump Epstein.pdf - Download as a PDF or view online for free
READ IT before commenting that my paedophilia comments are just an opinion.
Maybe I need to " grab your mother/wife/daughter/girlfriend by the pussy" for you to understand?
What frustrates me, though, is how just disagreeing with certain views automatically labels you as a Trump supporter or a MAGA person. It’s like anyone who doesn't follow the same narrative gets thrown into that box, regardless of where they stand. I don't back Trump, and I’m not in support of his actions, but I’m also not going to let every disagreement be twisted into me somehow supporting the guy.
And as for the whole "grab my mother by her pussy" remark—come on, that's purely for shock value and reaction. It's a pathetic attempt to provoke a response, not a serious argument. We all know it's just meant to get a rise out of people, but that doesn't make it any more valid or reasonable.
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Dude, this isn't day-to-day communication. Forum communication is essentially a form of presentation, and just like any presentation, it's always been edited before release. Much like how the printing press was used to publish newspapers after careful editing, this is no different. It's about refining ideas, not just mindlessly spitting out raw thoughts. So, it's not lazy; it's an evolution in how we communicate.
If you wanna chat, feel free to message me. I’m more than happy to 'chat,' but this isn’t chatting. This is putting my thoughts on public display. While I know there’s a lot of controversy around using AI, especially in this forum, I believe in presenting myself in the best way possible. AI is just a tool—I'm the thought engine behind it. Just some food for thought: Are we lazy for driving cars instead of using horse and carriage? Just another evolution in how we get things done.
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I would contend that the use of AI is a DEvolution of communication & makes people lazy in the way they communicate in the written word, rather than being able to correctly construct a sentence or even a cogent argument on a subject.
Everything I write comes directly from my own brain, vocabulary & all the punctuation, spelling & grammatical protocols that I learned in school decades ago. That's perhaps why ChatGPT is banned from use in schools & universities etc., because it makes people fundamentally lazy (as was pointed-out earlier).
Call me old-school if you will, but I strongly believe that our ability to communicate effectively without "help" from AI is what makes us fundamentally human.
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Problem is - you didn't write it.
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Did you get your AI friend to read the articles and give you a 25 word summery so you can "understand" ?
Somehow I think you did. You're lazy mate. Think for yourself and learn how to express yourself via the written
word. Maybe go back to school ? Nothing to be ashamed of. If you go to a face to face job interview and you're
asked a question, are you going to read your AI answer from your phone ? Do you think you'll get the job or laughed
out the door ?
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Honestly, I get what you're saying, but it feels like more of an ego defense than an argument for actual communication improvement. Just because something challenges the status quo doesn't make it inherently wrong. The idea that AI is somehow a 'devolution' of communication ignores the fact that we’ve always adapted our communication tools over time. Writing with quills and ink was once the 'pure' method of communication. Before that, oral traditions dominated. The written word itself was revolutionary and was met with similar resistance.
AI doesn’t make people lazy—it just changes the way we approach tasks. Writing isn't just about grammar and punctuation; it’s about conveying ideas. With or without AI, the ability to communicate effectively is still based on the thought process behind the words. Using a tool to structure or enhance your thoughts doesn’t diminish your ability to form arguments or express yourself. It’s just a different method.
I’m not saying it’s a replacement for critical thinking, but AI can amplify and refine what we already know. It doesn’t take away the fact that I’m still the one thinking and making decisions about the conversation. So, it feels a bit more like holding onto a sense of pride in 'doing it the old way' rather than actually making a real argument.
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Case in point: "Defence" is correctly spelt with a "c", not an "s" (unless you're ONLY in the US).
Easy to spot........
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I read the articles, mate. Then, I use my AI friend—yeah, as you put it—to present what I want to say. Because, you know, communicating isn’t just about throwing words out there; it's about getting my ideas across as effectively as possible. And if I have a tool that helps me refine my thoughts and put them into words that flow better, why not use it?
You can call it lazy, but it's the same as using a calculator for math instead of doing everything by hand. It’s not about avoiding effort; it’s about optimizing the process and focusing my energy where it counts. I still have to do the thinking; the AI just helps me present it better. Just like a writer might use a thesaurus or an editor to improve their work. It’s about using the best tools available to get the job done.
And there it is another outlandish remark completely out if left field. Would I use GPT in a job interview...
Well, I wouldn’t use it in an interview, just like I don’t have it in my ear for regular conversations. It’s not about replacing genuine interaction—it’s about refining and presenting thoughts more clearly when needed. If we’re going to write or speak in a public forum, why not make sure the message is as effective as possible?
It’s the same as any tool used to enhance communication. If you want to call that lazy, go ahead, but we’ve always used tools to improve the way we express ourselves. Don’t see why this one’s any different.
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Here is an interesting discussion about AI - with someone who had asked Chat GPT to write a song in the style of Nick Cave and then they sent these lyrics to Cave for his opinion. Read his response yourself - and tell me what you actually think. If that is actually possible for you.
https://www.theredhandfiles.com/chat-gpt-what-do-you-think/
