Soils ain't soils - Bunnings, supermarkets, specialty stores, compost?

[itchybro]

Setting up some Blusoak systems today. Looking forward to see how well it performs in the raised beds.

Ahhhh cool
i was wondering if you can get the blusoak & it's bits & bobs needed , here in oz
i was hoping i could use it at the next place i move too in a short while

i see you've used a dripper 80mm away from the carrots to make sure it switches the watering off
are both carrots maxi's in each bed ? , & i didn't realize you need a carrot at both ends of the blusoak , is that
what i'm seeing = a carrot attached at the start & end of the blusoak tape , both with a dripper beside them ?

 

[Donothing-garden]

Yeah, I'm selling them actually... The dripper helps the Blumat carrot sense soil moisture more accurately to shut the Blusoak on and off... As U mentioned. One carrot is a regular, the other is a Maxi... In a closed loop config so the whole system has equal pressure and is emitting moisture based on 2x different sensors.

 

[itchybro]

Yeah, I'm selling them actually... The dripper helps the Blumat carrot sense soil moisture more accurately to shut the Blusoak on and off... As U mentioned. One carrot is a regular, the other is a Maxi... In a closed loop config so the whole system has equal pressure and is emitting moisture based on 2x different sensors.

ahh ok i see how your running it now

i could see myself buying quite allot of blusoak
depending on cost , i wouldn't mind setting up a whole garden with blusoak tape
canna beds , vege beds , fruit trees , perennials , the whole enchilada

i didn't see it on your site , do you have any pricing & how it's sold ( by foot/meter $ )
& what connections do you need per carrot ( & cost )

thanks DNG

 

[Jaz]

For anyone thinking about Bunnings - stay away!

These are results using Tomato, Vegetable & Herb Premium Potting Mix, Coco Peat and Perlite all from Bunnings. Coco Peat and Perlite were both washed before mixing with potting mix

Considerable time was spent removing the woodchips from the potting mix - there were so many!



Pic taken exactly one month since placing the beans in water to germinate.

White Widow Fem on left, Big Bubble Fem on right

Big Bubble is near death. Not sure if it's worth putting her in new soil.

Grown outdoors, photo taken with girls in a lightbox (maybe should've used the blue backdrop) and has a yellowish hue, they're actually a light green colour.

j

 

[Donothing-garden]

And the manifold system as well

ahh ok i see how your running it now

i could see myself buying quite allot of blusoak
depending on cost , i wouldn't mind setting up a whole garden with blusoak tape
canna beds , vege beds , fruit trees , perennials , the whole enchilada

i didn't see it on your site , do you have any pricing & how it's sold ( by foot/meter $ )
& what connections do you need per carrot ( & cost )

thanks DNG

Hey itchy, I'll figure out pricing and let u know... I'll get it all up on the website soon. This is through an Australian distributor so unfortunately the pricing is quite high, however it is a one off investment as these systems last 15 years plus.

 

[Aye Shroomer]

So got a question. Maybe @itchybro and @Donothing-garden can answer.

Is there any real risk of cannabis absorbing toxins from tyres if I used them as garden beds? People say don’t use them for veg gardens.

 

[Unknown User]

Tyres do leach out toxins over time, as they breakdown. This process accelerates with sun and water. I would avoid using them.
having said that, many years ago I did plant a tree in an old tractor tyre.

 

[Jaz]

Tyres do leach out toxins over time

Tyres are made of vulcanised rubber - which involves adding sulphur to the rubber when it's in liquid form before manufacture.

Eventually that sulphur will end up in your soil, raising acidity.

Not to forget all the other chems in tyres.

j

 

[Aye Shroomer]

Tyres do leach out toxins over time, as they breakdown. This process accelerates with sun and water. I would avoid using them.
having said that, many years ago I did plant a tree in an old tractor tyre.

Thanks. So I had a plan to use them double stacked and place the greenhouse over them.
Maybe I won’t for anything I plan on eating or smoking.
But if I used them for companion plants like marigolds and lavender that should be ok yeah?

 

[Unknown User]

you could use them. I’d just be careful about placement and water runoff Direction. Me personally, I wouldn’t use them again I send them back for recycling. I am going to build a greenhouse, but will be careful about the materials I use.

 

[Jaz]

I used them for companion plants like marigolds and lavender that should be ok yeah?

There will be some plants that thrive on tyres decomposing. You'll have to check out which plants those are.

Some plants will not do well however.

If you were to use the lavender for oils and tinctures - I'd personally avoid tyre waste.

j

 

[freddie]

For anyone thinking about Bunnings - stay away!

These are results using Tomato, Vegetable & Herb Premium Potting Mix, Coco Peat and Perlite all from Bunnings. Coco Peat and Perlite were both washed before mixing with potting mix

Considerable time was spent removing the woodchips from the potting mix - there were so many!

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Pic taken exactly one month since placing the beans in water to germinate.

White Widow Fem on left, Big Bubble Fem on right

Big Bubble is near death. Not sure if it's worth putting her in new soil.

Grown outdoors, photo taken with girls in a lightbox (maybe should've used the blue backdrop) and has a yellowish hue, they're actually a light green colour.

j

Well maybe stay away from that particular one. My plants look great with the searls premium organic, with the addition of a few things. No picking out bark with the searls mix either.
That could well be a ph issue. Did you add any lime?

 

[Jaz]

That could well be a ph issue.

Tested the pH @ 6

Did you add any lime?

Nope, just the mix, coco and perlite.

Well maybe stay away from that particular one.

Indeed.

Oddly enough it was recommended on another forum, apparently anything good for tomatoes is good for cannabis - not this mix!

j

 

[Donothing-garden]

So got a question. Maybe @itchybro and @Donothing-garden can answer.

Is there any real risk of cannabis absorbing toxins from tyres if I used them as garden beds? People say don’t use them for veg gardens.

If a plant will absorb any toxin/heavy metal at all, it's cannabis. Powerful dynamic accumulator.

 

[Pikey]

There will be some plants that thrive on tyres decomposing.

Do tell

 

[Jaz]

Do tell

Haven't you ever heard of a rubber tree?



Look around and see all the plants growing around tyres, especially weeds.

Many use tyres for raised beds, ornamental displays, garden landscaping, retaining walls, etc. That vegetation is absorbing whatever those tyres are leaching.

Would you ever want to consume those plants - hell no!

j

 

[Pikey]

Haven't you ever heard of a rubber tree?

Sure have, please explain what nutrients it takes from the tyres and how they thrive.

Look around and see all the plants growing around tyres, especially weeds.

Many use tyres for ornamentals, garden landscaping, retaining walls, etc. That vegetation is absorbing whatever those tyres are leaching.

Would you ever want to consume those plants - hell no!

j

No, your claim was "There will be some plants that thrive on tyres decomposing". I am curious as to where you pulled that information from as plants rarely thrive when feeding on toxic material. But as you are the grand oricle I'm sure you can show me how I'm wrong.

 

[Jaz]

Haven't you ever heard of a rubber tree?

Sure have, please explain what nutrients it takes from the tyres and how they thrive.

j

 

[Pikey]

Answer the fucking question champion.... come on, you wanna spout shit, then back it up.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Jaz]

plants rarely thrive when feeding on toxic material.

There are many chemicals which are toxic to humans that plants thrive on.

When was the last time you consumed a bottle of Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium, etc. ?
Those chemicals are very toxic to humans in any great amount.
As they say, it's the dose that makes the poison



Soils that are too basic (low in acidity) can have their pH levels raised by adding sulphur - the chemical used to vulcanise rubber - tyres are made of vulcanised rubber.

j