No, I didn't try that this time, probably cause when I tried those methods 4 yrs ago I didn't have much luck as none of those ones survived, while at same time many of the ones planted directly in soil came up albeit some taking up to 2 weeks back then. Being they were a family members small stash of bag seed, this time they went directly in the soil, but no bananas. I'm a bit leary of overseas and customs nowadays, and there are so many dodgy supposedly domestic sites its hard to filter through them, so one of the reasons I joined was to hopefully find a domestic supply that other members were happy with, but so far from reading threads that looks hit and miss as well, which during reading those threads I saw a couple about Pm's.