When will a photoperiod naturally flip to flower outdoors in NSW?

[JimboBlu]

I’m trying to put together a plan to combine indoor germination, moving to an outdoor grow. So… the thing is, I’m planning on training for relatively small plants. My last grow was outdoors in the ground about 18 years ago and I can’t recall the details but it ended up flipping to flower at some point naturally and being around 1x1 meters in size. I just can’t remember when it flipped….!
So the questions are,
Are there timing factors that influence outdoor flowering time other than light? Eg would a seed planted in Sept flower at same time as one planted in Dec?

Does the specific strain have a big influence or just a minor influence on flowering time? Or no influence?

I guess also, if I was to flip to flower indoors and then bring them outdoors, when would the daylight be right to maintain flowering rather go back to veg?

Im not interested in autos at this stage…

Part of the plan is to also create a few clones for seed production, but maybe I’ll come back to that another time

 

[Sedge]

outdoors plants are triggered by the daylight hours so a September one might go into flower coz the light hours are too short.,,
but if you had a light on it for an hour or two at night till November to extend those vegetation hours then it will go to flower much like the one planted in dec ,,but be much bigger.

strain has an influence especially landrace or long flowering sativas ,for flowering time.and for onset of flowering.

but most hybrids are close to each other, for flowering to begin ,,but vary for harvest time but only by a few weeks in most cases,

indor going out to maintain flowering really depends on your local daylight hours ,,,which you can check on google.

in Vic it could go out late Jan and continue flowering.and finish about the same time as others that were already outside..some time in April ,,that is if it had just started to flower at that stage.

 

[stoner]

yeah it should just flip automatically around Feb next year. Harvest probably April to Mid May.

 

[Porky]

Late January to early March for most of East Coast!!

 

[JimboBlu]

outdoors plants are triggered by the daylight hours so a September one might go into flower coz the light hours are too short.,,
but if you had a light on it for an hour or two at night till November to extend those vegetation hours then it will go to flower much like the one planted in dec ,,but be much bigger.

strain has an influence especially landrace or long flowering sativas ,for flowering time.and for onset of flowering.

but most hybrids are close to each other, for flowering to begin ,,but vary for harvest time but only by a few weeks in most cases,

indor going out to maintain flowering really depends on your local daylight hours ,,,which you can check on google.

in Vic it could go out late Jan and continue flowering.and finish about the same time as others that were already outside..some time in April ,,that is if it had just started to flower at that stage.

Thanks Sedge, @stoner and @Porky . That makes things much clearer. cheers. So if I’m planning on smaller plants, there’s no big rush then

 

[Porky]

Thanks Sedge, @stoner and @Porky . That makes things much clearer. cheers. So if I’m planning on smaller plants, there’s no big rush then

If ya want small outdoor plants plant em late November early December.

 

[JimboBlu]

If ya want small outdoor plants plant em late November early December.

Yeah cheers mate, that sounds like the go. Considering it’s early Nov now, I’m thinking I’ll get them going as soon as I can

 

[R3za92]

Yeah cheers mate, that sounds like the go. Considering it’s early Nov now, I’m thinking I’ll get them going as soon as I can

Unless I’m fucking round with lights outdoors to stop plant flipping early I generally put seeds in around mid October/early November for full season plants

 

[JimboBlu]

Unless I’m fucking round with lights outdoors to stop plant flipping early I generally put seeds in around mid October/early November for full season plants

Cheers R3za92. I’m just waiting for the postal service to get its act together before I can get a start anyway, but it sounds like the timing should be fine to start in the next few weeks.
Yeah I’m kinda looking at possible options manipulating with lights to get things moving at times that work for me and when I’ll be away.
So if you bring the plants inside in January and flip to flower under lights for a couple of weeks then put them back outside say mid Feb, would they continue in flower taking the usual time to finish, or would the increased light slow them down so they’d finish at the same time anyway?…

I do realise I’m completely overthinking this shit... I know I’ll end up just planting some fucking seeds and seeing what happens

 

[Sticky67]

@JimboBlu I'd plant now and just get them going they should be fine mate. I have no idea about using lights for veg and then taking them outside but I do know I used to plant on or near the 1st of sept bcoz it's the 1st day of spring(yeah I know I'm wrong ) and it's my bday so I'd plant then and they'd just grow as normal outside and this was in a backyard in Glebe and I will add these were just bag seed or seed I'd previously grown and liked and they ended up finishing anywhere in Apr/may..I used to think about vegging inside and taking them out but to this day I just get confused with the timing part so I'm stuck with only outside now.. get growing bud

 

[Sedge]

Not really ,they’ll do that in flower ,,

edit,,if it really worries you ,you can give it a shot of nitrogen.

 

[JimboBlu]

@JimboBlu I'd plant now and just get them going they should be fine mate. I have no idea about using lights for veg and then taking them outside but I do know I used to plant on or near the 1st of sept bcoz it's the 1st day of spring(yeah I know I'm wrong ) and it's my bday so I'd plant then and they'd just grow as normal outside and this was in a backyard in Glebe and I will add these were just bag seed or seed I'd previously grown and liked and they ended up finishing anywhere in Apr/may..I used to think about vegging inside and taking them out but to this day I just get confused with the timing part so I'm stuck with only outside now.. get growing bud

Cheers Sticky, that’s good advice mate, I‘ll get‘m going asap