The Random Discussion / Argument Thread

[Old fox]

I don't really think it was rigged, but you do raise a good point about electronic voting. It just opens up many opportunities for someone with enough resources to skew the votes. It's really a stupid system, but for the argument of efficiency they've employed these devices.
That being said I fully believe the US population wholeheartedly voted for Trump but likely didn't really expect the shit that's happened or is yet to happen. There are reports that a number of Trump voters are disgruntled and wouldn't of voted for him if they knew what they were getting. This time around he seemed to portray himself as a more mature person and proper statesman.

I don't think 2024 election numbers were rigged either. There was voter suppression which is however legal.
Lot of voters were conned.
Many other voters were openly racist.
Large swathe of banjo strumming illiterates
And lots of cash being splashed around by the Leader of The American Nazi Party.

Can't fix stupid.

 

[Johnny Walker]

as to car makers i think the tariffs are getting Trump what he wanted as the list of companies investing gets longer with Hyundai & Rolls Royce moving more manufacturing to America to avoid his tariffs , just a side note if people didn't already know Rolls Royce makes airplane engines not just fancy cars , in saying that i think the US is one of there top markets for sales of there fancy cars , seems it will create more jobs & more taxes for the US

"To avoid the most damaging effects of the trade war, Rolls is exploring how much production can be transferred from the targeted countries to the US, where it employs 6,000 workers across 11 sites. This will allow Rolls to take on more new work without being subject to tariffs."

"Hyundai plans to invest $9bn by 2028, creating 14,000 full-time jobs to boost US production capacity to 1.2m vehicles and $6bn to expand strategic partnerships with American companies in autonomous driving, robotics, artificial intelligence, and advanced air mobility, the company said."

Do you have any links to the information that car makers are moving more of their manufacturing to the US?
I'd be interested to read them.

 

[itchybro]

Do you have any links to the information that car makers are moving more of their manufacturing to the US?
I'd be interested to read them.

your a big boy you can look'em up

currently Honda are looking at producing the next Civic in the US from Mexico
General Motors are also looking at moving more manufacturing back to the US
Ford are doing the same , keeping in mind although GM & Ford have been in the US for years they also have manufacturing in other countries , parts to build these cars come from countries that will or possibly will have tariffs put on them causing those parts to become more expensive , i'm sure you can workout the flow on effect from increased costs

the list of companies i was referring to wasn't just car companies , i think it's Intel , GE Appliances , Nvidia , Apple , some of these companies have been investing in the US for a while now , like Hyandai , but as tariffs start to ramp up companies don't want to loose market share by having increased pricing so moves are being considered or acted on currently , pretty sure there are some other companies than the ones I've mentioned , it seems that tariffs are driving companies to consider America & that companies market share , which possibly means more jobs & more taxes for the US , time will tell

 

[Sun Ra]

I read somewhere that Putin is talking to Trump about making LADA Nivas in the USA.

 

[benn0]

your a big boy you can look'em up

currently Honda are looking at producing the next Civic in the US from Mexico
General Motors are also looking at moving more manufacturing back to the US
Ford are doing the same , keeping in mind although GM & Ford have been in the US for years they also have manufacturing in other countries , parts to build these cars come from countries that will or possibly will have tariffs put on them causing those parts to become more expensive , i'm sure you can workout the flow on effect from increased costs

the list of companies i was referring to wasn't just car companies , i think it's Intel , GE Appliances , Nvidia , Apple , some of these companies have been investing in the US for a while now , like Hyandai , but as tariffs start to ramp up companies don't want to loose market share by having increased pricing so moves are being considered or acted on currently , pretty sure there are some other companies than the ones I've mentioned , it seems that tariffs are driving companies to consider America & that companies market share , which possibly means more jobs & more taxes for the US , time will tell

Do know that a lot of US car companies shifted parts/most of the assembly line to Mexico because of the much cheaper labour, easier access to labour and a few other things(like workplace safety or something like that making it smoother), all of that wasn't even that long ago in the big picture of things. So it wouldn't take much for them to spin up their old factories and bring back their full assembly line to the US. They'll probably end up with dark factories in a few years anyway now their incentivized to bring manufacturing and production wholly under the US. Good for them, good for efficiency, good for manufacturing, good for science perhaps not so good for people that are factory workers.

 

[Old fox]

your a big boy you can look'em up

currently Honda are looking at producing the next Civic in the US from Mexico
General Motors are also looking at moving more manufacturing back to the US
Ford are doing the same , keeping in mind although GM & Ford have been in the US for years they also have manufacturing in other countries , parts to build these cars come from countries that will or possibly will have tariffs put on them causing those parts to become more expensive , i'm sure you can workout the flow on effect from increased costs

the list of companies i was referring to wasn't just car companies , i think it's Intel , GE Appliances , Nvidia , Apple , some of these companies have been investing in the US for a while now , like Hyandai , but as tariffs start to ramp up companies don't want to loose market share by having increased pricing so moves are being considered or acted on currently , pretty sure there are some other companies than the ones I've mentioned , it seems that tariffs are driving companies to consider America & that companies market share , which possibly means more jobs & more taxes for the US , time will tell

More fact checking

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/27/cars/us-automakers-production-tariffs-analysis-intl-hnk/index.html

 

[itchybro]

fact check , that's a CNN opinion piece no different than my opinion post

 

[itchybro]

I read somewhere that Putin is talking to Trump about making LADA Nivas in the USA.

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my bro brought a Lada years ago thought it was good until he needed a tyre for it which was some strange arse size that no one had

 

[Old fox]

fact check , that's a CNN opinion piece no different than my opinion post

In the article, Ford CEO Jim Farley confirmed they're ( i.e Ford)NOT going to build new plants. I don't need your opinion when Ford plans CLEARLY contradicts your opinion

General Motors CFO Paul Jacobson is also better qualified than you are in the automotive industry. He also confirmed G.M doesn't have ANY expansion plans in the current volatile market. I don't need your opinion when General Motors actual operational plans contradicts your opinion.

Sounds like another heavy day on the kool aid again. The MAGA Propaganda bubble in action.

How's Tesla going by the way?

 

[Sun Ra]

 

[Johnny Walker]

your a big boy you can look'em up

currently Honda are looking at producing the next Civic in the US from Mexico
General Motors are also looking at moving more manufacturing back to the US
Ford are doing the same , keeping in mind although GM & Ford have been in the US for years they also have manufacturing in other countries , parts to build these cars come from countries that will or possibly will have tariffs put on them causing those parts to become more expensive , i'm sure you can workout the flow on effect from increased costs

the list of companies i was referring to wasn't just car companies , i think it's Intel , GE Appliances , Nvidia , Apple , some of these companies have been investing in the US for a while now , like Hyandai , but as tariffs start to ramp up companies don't want to loose market share by having increased pricing so moves are being considered or acted on currently , pretty sure there are some other companies than the ones I've mentioned , it seems that tariffs are driving companies to consider America & that companies market share , which possibly means more jobs & more taxes for the US , time will tell

So they are "looking at" returning manufacturing to the USA.
I like the way you and a few others take small snippets of information and twist it to suit your personal opinion on a subject.
That's why you can not link anything credible because you post was a lie.

 

[Johnny Walker]

your a big boy you can look'em up

currently Honda are looking at producing the next Civic in the US from Mexico
General Motors are also looking at moving more manufacturing back to the US
Ford are doing the same , keeping in mind although GM & Ford have been in the US for years they also have manufacturing in other countries , parts to build these cars come from countries that will or possibly will have tariffs put on them causing those parts to become more expensive , i'm sure you can workout the flow on effect from increased costs

the list of companies i was referring to wasn't just car companies , i think it's Intel , GE Appliances , Nvidia , Apple , some of these companies have been investing in the US for a while now , like Hyandai , but as tariffs start to ramp up companies don't want to loose market share by having increased pricing so moves are being considered or acted on currently , pretty sure there are some other companies than the ones I've mentioned , it seems that tariffs are driving companies to consider America & that companies market share , which possibly means more jobs & more taxes for the US , time will tell

So they are "looking at" returning manufacturing to the USA.
I like the way you and a few others take small snippets of information and twist it to suit your personal opinion on a subject.
That's why you can not link anything credible because your post was a lie.

 

[Goonie Goat]

 

[Goonie Goat]

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[Old fox]

In the article, Ford CEO Jim Farley confirmed they're ( i.e Ford)NOT going to build new plants. I don't need your opinion when Ford plans CLEARLY contradicts your opinion

General Motors CFO Paul Jacobson is also better qualified than you are in the automotive industry. He also confirmed G.M doesn't have ANY expansion plans in the current volatile market. I don't need your opinion when General Motors actual operational plans contradicts your opinion.

Sounds like another heavy day on the kool aid again. The MAGA Propaganda bubble in action.

How's Tesla going by the way?

@Billygoat . System glitch. This message auto reposted in this thread 4 times. Doesn't allow me to delete the multiple messages?

 

[Rabbitlicker]

@Billygoat . System glitch. This message auto reposted in this thread 4 times. Doesn't allow me to delete the multiple messages?

Time for a beer, a spliff, a Bex & a nice lie-down until this temporal anomaly is rectified by the judicious application of a Tachyon-pulse.

 

[benn0]

Time for a beer, a spliff, a Bex & a nice lie-down until this temporal anomaly is rectified by the judicious application of a Tachyon-pulse.

Live long and prosper

 

[Rabbitlicker]

Wrong series, but I genuinely appreciate your acknowledgement of the reference

 

[Harry bootlace]

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few years after they changed to fads i was in country WA and a shop had a whole box full of packets of fags.
i wanted to buy them all but was really poor back then. as in every cent counts. so I didn’t/ couldn’t.

 

[Rabbitlicker]

Could this be a political comment, or am I just re-living my teenage years?